Joy to the World

The Next Step Podcast
Season 3: Light in the Darkness
Episode 9: Joy to the World
Date: 26 December 2020
Guests: Conrad Gempf, London School of Theology

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In this episode of the Next Step Podcast, Conrad Gempf joins Justin Rossow to talk about Chapter 9: Joy to the World from the resource Light in the Darkness: A Hymn Journal for Advent & Christmas.

After a brief introduction and an opening prayer, you’ll hear Conrad and Justin read the selected Scripture 87. As part of the ensuing discussion, Justin will read the devotion “Nor Thorns Infest the Ground” on page 88.

After we listen to the Brooke and Brenan arrangement of this chapter’s featured hymn, Conrad and Justin will discuss the hymn text and the theology of Jesus’ first Advent in light of His second Advent.

Three blogs from The Next Step Community continue the theme of today’s discussion:

When Joy to the World Comes True,
Far as the Curse is Found, and
A Spiritual Body?

If you enjoyed hearing Conrad today, you might want to check out the free audio recording of his book Jesus Asked: What He Wanted to Know at

Conrad has also appeared in podcast episodes for the last two hymn journals from Next Step Press:

This podcast is designed especially to go with the Light in the Darkness Facebook learning community sponsored by Next Step Press. Join us at

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The intro and outro music for Season 3: Light in the Darkness was arranged and performed by Brendan Knorp. The music included in the podcast was written and performed by Brooke and Brendan. All rights reserved.

The A Light in the Darkness CD from Brooke and Brendan is now available on your favorite streaming services as well as on YouTube.

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